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in washington president obama is meeting with washington to discuss the fiscal cliff. the automatic government spending cuts that will kick in. republicans and the white house sent to have finally found some common ground both sides agreeing that tax revenue and reductions in entitlement spending for programs like medicare are key elements of this bill. republicans may be softening on raising taxes for the wealthy americans. the white house may be bending on accepting greater spending cuts for medicare and possibly raising the medicare retirement age 65 age from 65 to 67. >> thank you mark. we will take a quick break the time is 6:38. we are following the weather. we have quite a bit of rain coming down quite a bit in the bay area especially in the east bay. george is following a hot spot in interstate 80, a backup sonically basically from berkeley up to the cartoonist bridge. george will let us know why and what is going (male announcer): live from the bay area this is the kron 4 morning news. kron 4 news starts now. >> thanks for watching kron fours bay area news channel. here are the top st
but frozen. so far - no een >>> tensions over tax hikes and spending cuts have left the "fiscal cliff" talks all but frozen. so far no face-to-face meetings have been scheduled between the democrats and republicans. cbs reporter danielle nottingham with the president's push now to sell his plan to american businesses. >> reporter: president obama asked business leaders this morning to support his plan to prevent a fiscal crisis. >> let's allow higher rights to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles. >> reporter: if no deal is reached between democrats and republicans before the end of the year, taxes will go up for everyone and automatic spending cuts will kick in. the president wants bush-era tax breaks to expire for households making $250,000 or more. republicans are adamantly opposed to that. >> closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. >> reporter: republicans are also pressing their case with the public. house gop leaders invited
cliff is a series of spending cuts and expiring tax credits set to take effect in 27 days. today the president made the case to a group of top business leaders. his plan calls for a higher tax rate on earned income exceeding $250,000 and republicans say that would be a job killer. though are pushing for raise revenue by closing tax loopholes and deductions, something that the president says would not raise enough cash. wendell is live with more on the white house. how much much revenue would the president's plan raise by raising the tax rates for high earners? >> about $1 trillion the next 10 years from the rate increase. that is just part of a package that also includes limits on deductions and tax credits and aims to pull in a total of $1.6 trillion. republicans want to keep tax rates the same b end deductions and loopholes but obama says that will not get the job done. >> it is not possible to raise the amount of revenue required for a balance the package if all you rely on is closing deductions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is possible to do theoretically but it is not
lead time. but it's also important to remember that the fiscal cliff isn't only tax rates and spending cuts. the fiscal cliff also includes the nation's agriculture policy, which expires at the end of the year. it includes patches to medicare formulas. patches to social security formulas. so this is a huge mess of issues. we're not even talking about those issues yet. congressional negotiators and the white house aren't talking about these huge host of other issues that are on the table. the thought is if they can get past tax rates and spending cuts, then they will be able to deal with the peripheral issues. but we don't have much time. if a deal isn't reached or a framework isn't reached in the next week or, so it's going to be a big problem. >> all right, thanks for that. good to see you. > >>> nokia -- we'll tell you more when we come back in a few moments. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to rememb
that fiscal cliff... of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appear to be at a standstill, president obama told bloomberg news, the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply does not add up. republicans have been equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. tax rates on the wealthy remain the key sticking point between both sides. after a white house meeting tuesday, a bi- partisan group of governors expressed hope that an agreement will be reached soon. experts forecast economic turmoil in january, if a deal is not reached. >> john boehner took a break from the negotiations to help light of the christmas tree. eagle scout, from colorado springs helped out and there is. the crowd in cheers and the u.s. air force played " a christmas tree " and other holiday classics. this is a spruce tree from call rental white river national forest. it has 10,000 lights, ornaments and will be let in each night until the day after christmas. >> we are going to take a look at the golden gate bridge. dry roadways. the bulk of the
of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter: speaker boehner offered the republican proposal this week and now he faces opposition from president obama. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: some in his own party are lining up against him. jim demint a tea party leader said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. disagreements among republicans and democrats here on capitol hill is nothing new, but tuesday a republican aide told us the two sides aren't even talking. not surprisingly the white house disagrees. >> i can guarantee you conversations continue at different levels. and among different groups. >> reporter: both parties are ready to play the blame game in case negotiations fail. >> there's only one person out of 370 million americans who can sign something into law and that's the president. >> 60% of americans are asking the wealthy to pay more. >> reporter
putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well, you know, i think the house gop, they have presented their counteroffer which white house spokesman jay carney is referring to as, quote, magic beans and fairy dust. we expect that house republicans will keep putting pressure on the white house to engage, push for more details on what the white house will accept when it comes to additional entitlement cuts. but i think what's unclear is what kind of negotiating is goin
. the kinds of spending you're seeingo a great eent on the fiscal cliff and president's pl and lesser extent to the republican plan, largely disctionary spending cs. a lot coming out of defense. these are not longerm ructural chaes t will put on a path to a balaed budt. that will not happen. melissa: the other thing that struckme about the graphic when you look at it, the threat f from republicans hey, we would rath go over the cliff rather than take the president's deal, to me doesn't look terribly credible when you look at actual numbers. unss you take into perspective we're not really going overor years. but it is just going over the cliff is so focus on raising taxes, on absolutely everybody and spending cuts are really nothat imprsive in tes of getting, you know, the gap down smalle they say if you compare it to the white house plan they would rather g over the cliff. i'm not sure that is really credible given those mbers. what do you think?. >> way some rublicans not l, growing number of republicans are looking at this, assigningle to the president, making clea this t president'slan
what happens if we go off this fiscal cliff. it's a spending decision and a tax decision, but i list them both up here. this chart comes from the congressional research service. a couple interesting things i want to point out here. first and foremost, if we do nothing, tax increases of about $400 billion, there are going to be spending reductions of about $102 billion, there are some other changes that happen at the end of the year that aren't associated with policy decisions, at the end of the day we change the scope of our deficit by about $607 billion. if we do nothing, that's what makes this such a hard issue to grapple with, mr. speaker, if we do nothing, if we reach no agreement, changes that happen automatically and burden us all in different ways, will create $607 billion for the u.s. treasury that we didn't have before. and that's only half of the annual deficit. you see all the pan damone yum that -- pandemonium folks are describing, all the frightful words used to describe the fiscal cliff, if we roll over that fiscal cliff and all of those bad things come to bear, the tax
increases and spending cuts that people here in washington call the fiscal cliff. most house members are going home today with only 27 days to make a deal. two house leaders who are not going home are with me in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move o
. (laughter) our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bare-bones competence and middle school level maturity. (laughter) so the there a deal. >> there's, of course, no deal. >> jon: of course! is there there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> jon: of course! (laughter) but the ongoing talks -- >> there aren't even very many talks going on. (laughter) >> jon: damn! you're kidding us! give us something! >> but for the first time there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> jon: numbers on paper! (cheers and applause) we have numbers on paper! from both sides! (whispering snvpld we're all going to be okay. (laughter) how were -- numbers on paper. how were negotiations being conducted before they decided to put numbers on paper? (laughter) were they communicateding by pheromones like aunts? (laughter) vanity cards? is that how this was going? were the two sides just spray painting a
moments, a discussion of house spending cuts in the so-called fiscal cliff. in a little less than an hour, more about the fiscal cliff with republican representative tom cole from oklahoma. then the head of fema testifies on capitol hill about the government's response to hurricane sandy. and later, senate debate on the u.n. treaty for the disabled. ♪ ♪ >> this weekend on c-span3's american history tv, follow harry truman easeleddest grandson to hiroshima as the city prepared to mark the bombing of the city in 1945. >> you know, everybody has their own view what happened, and i, i don't, i don't want to argue survival with anyone in japan about the history. i think we're past that. my whole purpose for being here is to listen, to honor the dead, to listen to the living and to see -- to do what i can to see this doesn't happen again. >> clifton truman daniel will join us sunday at 9 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> now, a discussion of how the military and national security might be affected by spending cuts scheduled to take effect the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff.
's something that won't happen. short term spending cuts should be part of any fiscal cliff deal. the big news this morning is we're not going over the cliff. they have a bad hand. they're going to end up passing this middle class tax thing if that's the only thing they do. and live to fight another day. you can see the momentum building. not official but you see it. the difficulty for boehner still is passing the extension may be best of the options it is an option that a chunk of his party has said he would reject. the fiscal conservatives criticizing boehner's budget pr proposal. then you had senate republicans watching their backs, rejecting a u.n. treaty that bans discrimination against those with disabilities around the world. senator jim demint said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. yes, he said speaker boehner. one party proposes increase in an effort to counter them. the other party's leadership proposes, wait for it, $800 billion in tax increases and then former alaska governor sarah palin blasting boehner's decision to remove some conservatives from
: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough
for joining us, congressman. what gives? what gives? tell us about fiscal cliff. are you worried about the fiscal cliff? >>guest: you bet your life. people in my district are, small business people if my district are concerned about it. people have to plan not just for the bill of today but the bills and the tax responsibilities they are going to have if tomorrow. i listened to a previous guest, the people, the small business people in my community, 97 per science -- percent to not make $250,000 a year personal salaries so they are not affected by the top 2 percent. having said that, they want people to get back to work. people to have jobs to have incomes to buy from the small business people. blue are small or large you want to know which, how are the laws going to be, what are the tax lie bills going to be, and this congress owes it to the american people to tell them. >>eric: congressman, america has always been about hard working people earning, creating jobs, creating opportunity, passing a better life on to the next generation, to their kids, i don't know, at some point maybe yo
's mind right now. with about four weeks to go before that fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appeared at a standstill on tuesday. karin caifa tells us where everything stands. >> in the midst of a standoff with capitol hill republicans, president obama told bloomberg news that the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply doesn't add up. the >> speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about, for example, eight hundred billion dollars worth of revenues but he says he will do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it does does not work. >> not work. as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things
to listen in a little more to see what he has to say about the fiscal cliff and otherwise. >> entirely on spending cuts, or a variation that has emerged is that we can do so while still lowering rates by closing loopholes and deductions. and you've heard from my team but let me just repeat. we don't have any objection to tax reform, tax simplification. closing loopholes, closing deductions, but there is a bottom line, an amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan that hits the numbers that are required for us to stabilize our debt and deficits. and -- [. [no audio] kwroe. jenna: we gave it our best shot. sometimes we can't do it. the president speaking at the white house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president referring to that as well. as we continue to get that feedback you can check it out foxnews.com
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the mortgage interest deduction. government spending on this will reach $100 million by 2014, making it the third largest tax break on the books. who does it help? 41 million people. the most recent irs data showed that 41 million people claimed this deduction on their 2010 tax returns. the tax policy center says it tends to benefit upper middle class families the most. these bars show income in the circles the average savings. for those with incomes of less than $40,000 a year, their savings is $91, look at the people who make $250,000 and more. their average savings is about $5500. this benefits people most on both coasts and cities like chicago, with higher property prices, and we watch the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington
in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
're not having a conversation about spending. the republicans and democrats alike designed the fiscal cliff. it's a series of bipartisan compromises and i think it's kind of foolish to think that this group of congressmen and senators is going to come up with a way out of something they themselves designed. >> rich, you worked for a republican speaker who went up against a democratic president over the spending issues. back then the face-off didn't turn out all that well for your party. obviously very difficult era. do you agree with eric's take? is the right strategy for republicans to stick to their guns, forget about compromise? >> no. i really don't -- eric is one of my favorite people. we talk a lot. but i think that, and i did work for the speaker gingrich during the shut-down fight in '96, and it did not work out well for republicans. the president has a much bigger bully pulpit than the speaker does. newt gingrich's bully pulpit was pretty big back in those days but at some point, republicans in the house -- and i think boehner is trying to look for ways to do this, speaker boehner, tha
to the fiscal cliff and not one iota closer to a deal to avoid it. now, on january 1st, four weeks from today, automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in with potentially serious consequences for virtually every taxpayer in this country. there has been zero progress on a deal, zero. keeping them honest though, the american people clearly want a compromise, polls show they want results. but the two sides are still far apart on the issue at the heart of the debate, whether the wealthiest americans should pay more taxes than they do right now. the people you elected to get things done, they're not getting them done, not even close. in a cnn/orc poll taken a few weeks ago, 67% said washington officials would behave like spoiled children in fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like responsible adults. with that in mind, here's what the key players, the grownups, have said in just the past 24 hours. listen. >> the math, it doesn't work. >> his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> we'r
quickly face the challenge of his second term, avoiding this fiscal cliff. in august of 2011 congress passed the budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of all defense and non-defense federal spending irrespective of policy or its impact on everyday people. these cuts would be absolutely devastating to our national and local economies. our -- show that sequestration will reduce federal funding direct to san francisco by at least 26.5 million dollars a year, every single year. we would see over $5 million of cut to education, and almost $3 million of cuts from public housing. san francisco's allocation of medicare would be cut by $2 million. funding for the wic workforce program would lose almost $5 million. there would be a $1 million cut to housing services for people with hiv and aids and more than $1 million cut to the community development block grant program. ladies and gentlemen
on the fiscal cliff, urging republicans and democrats to work together to avoid automatic increases and spending cuts set for the end of the year. in baltimore, a group of demonstrators outside the social security office made their feelings known, urging a resolution that does not include cuts in social security jobs and services. >> we're concerned about the cuts in social security. and we would like to see them change. and we don't want to see our public hurt in any way. we want to serve public every day. >> you don't take money out of people's hands when you're trying to promote jobs. >> this is not a crime to cut back. >> for maryland, there's more than associate security cuts at stake. overall, maryland has 300,000 direct jobs and another 230,000 contracting jobs supported by the federal government. >> maryland has the fourth highest number of government- related jobs in the country. i'm pat warren reporting. now back to you on tv hill. >> and employees at more than 100 social security offices nationwide, participated today. the social secur
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as the fiscal cliff take effect. bloomberg government hosted a discussion this morning with the top democrat on the house budget committee, chris van hollen as well as republican senator bob corker and senator mark warner. at 9:00 eastern, president obama and house spear jaub boehner and spoke about the fiscal cliff today. republicans might be willing to agree to higher tax rates on the wealthy in january. house speaker calling on the obama administration to respond to the republicans' deficit proposal. president obama is at 9:00 eastern followed by speaker boehner. >> this weekend on c-span 3's american history tv, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to japan. >> everybody has their own view what happened and i don't want to argue survival to anyone in japan about the history. we're past that. and my whole purpose for being here is to listen to the living and to do what i can. >> sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 3. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 6-3 i believe and going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the in
over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over the 800 billion in new tax revenue. this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed co
's advertisers are displaying caution about spending because of the fiscal cliff. he'll be on "squawk on the street" at 11:40 eastern time. and netflix paying for exclusive rights to stream disney movies. a lot of happenings moving stocks in a big way. with pandora, analysts give pandora a pass but they keep putting out bright spots in third quarter that did come in better than expected. mobile monthization. >> this is the first company that came out and blamed the fiscal cliff. one of the few companies that would not be worried about the fiscal cliff because of great growth opportunities. could this be a competitive thing? >> i use them both. a huge fan of both. jpmorgan says it doesn't change the thesis. the theme is that they, like others, monthization and mobile continues to do well and you get guidance and morgan says it's frustrating. >> guidance was terrible. another disaster. it may be too early to buy pandora to put it in zynga groupon. groupon, i don't know if you call the deal today. it's awesome. one of three different i can do. >> you can get two in one day. >> i don't kn
on politics. >> now to washington. more tough words from the president and republican leaders over the fiscal cliff. as both sides dig in their heels the government is preparing for a worst-case scenario. >> pentagon and other federal agencies are beginning the process for preparing for deep spending cuts. with 27 days to go fiscal friday worked. >> we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> house republican leaders called for a sit-down with president obama and blasted him for turning down their deal. >> he put an offer on if table and he has rejected it. where are the specifics? where are the discussions? >> the president pointed the finger right back. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> telling business leaders that if they use the fiscal cliff to wage a deal they have another thing coming. >> it is a bad strategy for america and it is not a gamely play. >> the stalemate comes as both parties remain at odds on whether to raise taxes on the welty and how deep to cut entitlement programs like social security and medicare. >> just because we're at a stalemate doesn't mean we won't ge
, vis-a-vis the president on how to avoid the fiscal cliff or what we should do about tax increases and spending cuts. if mr. boehner is the principal negotiator, what he had to say lasted all of 30 seconds. he simply came out and said look, if the president doesn't agree with our plan, the republican plan, he should submit a plan that could pass through congress. he has failed to do that. he said, however, and he used these words, that speaker boehner and the republicans are ready and eager to negotiate with the president. doesn't sound like there's any degree of compromise there. there's an extremely short statement, really didn't say much of anything. that's it, speaker boehner. mr. cantor is now speaking. again, he's keeping it very very short and very much to the point. but the principal negotiator had all of 30 seconds. that's it. we brought it to you live. >>> back to the judge. >> well i was sort of hoping he would say no new taxes no new spending no new borrowing, draw a line in the sand, do what you were sent there to do. they are becoming enablering of obama -- they are b
will, thank you very much. >> we're now four weeks from that so called fiscal cliff and talks between democrats and republicans in washington have stalled. january 1 bush era tax cuts cuts affecting defense and social spending. house republicans offered a plan including $800 billion in revenue. the president says it's not good enough. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up z we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. it's not:hlj partisan. >> the plan is also not popular with some republicans. opular with some republicans. conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves and treating the proposal like it's serious. >> there is one area that may have found common ground. raising the age when seniors can receive some medicare. >> an eight day strike by shippingl2?sq)ks. both sides agreed to mediation. lines being7kuñ honored by 10,0 long shore men. the strike against 14 shipping lines is costing the u.s. economy $1 bi=es; a day in lost trade. the union jobs claims jobs being shipped overseas. the port says it's offering
when we look at the fiscal cliff and everything else in terms of actual cuts in spending, everybody recoils in horror because they know it implies. >> you made your point, though, we surrendered to fdr, and instead of supplementing people, instead of letting them earn their own success, we're going to somehow try to deal with outcome rather than opportunity and pay for it. and you want to pay for -- >> no, i don't. >> in a fairer society. what you see as a fairer society. >> i didn't say it was a fairer society. but chris brought up an important point. and i want people to talk about the "wall street journal" today. we're not talking about cutting spending, not talking about cutting growth rates, which is a huge difference, one reason why people like me look at former presidential candidate mitt romney talk about npr or planned parenthood. the number one answer for balancing the budget is foreign aid. which if you really wanted to balance the budget and you don't always have to go to the department of justice or whatever it may be. but over the next ten years, 90% of federal outlays
the country does go over that fiscal cliff, budget officials have asked all federal agencies for information that they need in case of possible plans in case of those automatic spending cuts that could go in place in just 27 days. >> peter alexander at the white house for us tonight. thank you. >>> and up next, the loss today of a legend in american music. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. s
. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget management says $115 billion was misspent. that's a tremendous savings right there. they are both much lower than everyone says we need. all economists say we need a minimum of $4 trillion or greater swing. that means a combining of many things. i think both of them are in the two or not much more than two or lower than two. that only goats you halfway there. i don't know how we got off track of what we really need to fix this. martha: he argues the economy is ready to take off if people would just stop playing the blame game. bill: one of the changes that may be coming is the reduction in the mortgage interest rate duck you can claim. but according to the i.r.s. only a small percentage of americans claim it after all. all. 37% in maryland and 15% in north dakota. 73 per of americans are opposed to changing that. martha: the owner of popular restaurant chains claims complaints about obama-care h
deep spending cuts made to avoid the fiscal cliff would affect native-american issues. and you may remember yesterday, the president met with a group of six governors on this issue. this has become the primary focus on washington. alison burns is in our d.c. newsroom with more on this. >> reporter: that's right, tori. president obama is trying to convince these business leaders that he has a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and get the economy back on track. but he says it's going to take some sacrifice. here's a look at the president shaking hands with business leaders about 15 minutes ago and he's calli for tax increases on the wealthiest americans and an extension of tax rates for the middle school. talks have fallen apart in recent days. but the president insists he's working with republicans to try to get a deal. republicans are willing to cut -- >> reporter: republicans are willing to cut loopholes. here's what john boehner said. >> the revenues being put on the table are gonna come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say it's clear to them that president obama
if romney didn't win. this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million every hour in washington. seven days a week, 24 hours a day, thanksgiving, ramadan, whatever. that gap cannot be closed by sticking to to the rich. >> brian: don't you think the president realizes that or do you think he fully realizes that in. >> oh, yeah, he does. this is the cunning thing. he's going to blame it on the rich, blame it on the republicans. but right now if you're just an average working guy with an average income, your taxes are going to go up because for him -- pour for the president, it's not about the economy. it's about government. it's about the size of government. not the ec
of the business round table, amid a debate over the fiscal cliff. the group is urging congress to take immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forc
and the specific spending cuts specific revenue increases that reduce the deficit and avoid the fiscal cliff. we should not put out the hard decisions with gimmicks or triggers. that is what got us here in the first place. at this time to bite the bullet -- it is time to bite the bullet and make the tough decision. the first thing we should do is immediately and eminently extend the middle class tax cuts. this decisive action will ensure that millions of american families do not see a tax cut. -- a tax hike of $2000 in the next two months. we need a long-term solution. most serious plans recommend about $4 trillion to restore the balance. interest savings revives another $600 billion. brining home our troops from iraq and afganistan brings another $800 billion. this plan will strengthen the economy. it will put us on a stable path forward. it must ramp up over time if we will avoid slowing down the economic recovery. 40% of the long-term growth of federal health programs is due to rising healthcare costs. 40%. 60% is due to americans aging. 10,000 americans turn 65 every day. in fact, each and e
of the screen. we have lots more in the show. twenty-six days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. is that what democrats want us to do? pictures seem so. we go live to capitol hill in 10 minutes. while congress talked about wanting to cut excess spending, the numbers may tell a different story. i will break it down coming up next. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in econocs, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise ur rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. gerri: where would we be without senator tom coburn? without the oklahoma taxpayer dollars? this fellow brought us this image. your member this? the shrimp on on the treadmill. does anyone have? @%e national science foundation studying the effects on disease. they decided to do this, and they spend 500,000 taxpayer dollars doing this study. if you can get scientists to waste money, the senator is back with another study. this time uncove
marylanders will be affected if we allow the fiscal cliff to happen. >> reporter: while they hash it out on the hill, they are urging to work together to avoid automatic increases and spending cults set for the -- cuts set for the end of the year. >> a group demonstrating made their feelings known, urging a resolution that does not include cuts in social security jobs and services. >> we're concerned about the cuts to social security. and we would like to see things change. and we don't want to see our public hurt in any way. we want to serve the public every day. >> you don't take money out of people's hands when you're trying to promote jobs. >> this is not a crime to cut back. >> reporter: for maryland issue there's more than social security cuts at stake. overall, maryland has 3,000 direct jobs and another 230,000 contracting jobs supported by the federal government. >> reporter: maryland has the fourth highest number of government-related jobs in the country. i'm pat warren reporting. now back to you on t hill. >> employees at more than 100 soci
for these massive spending cuts that would come at the end of the year if we go over the fiscal cliff. the white house saying they don't expect we will. they still hope it can be prevented, but they have to start planning. also, speaker of the house john boehner meeting with small business leaders on capitol hill where he reiterated some of his key points. again, just within the past hour. take a listen. >> business owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that vi
's not a fiscal cliff. the truth is we have a tax decision coming up and we have a spending decision coming up. truthfully, we need more spending decisions coming up. sequester is a new word that we brought up. the sequester, as you recall, mr. speaker, was the hammer that we put in place way back, one of the first big votes you and i took way back in august of 2011. that was part of an agreement that the president wanted to raise the debt ceiling. there were bills that needed to be paid. the speaker of the house, john boehner, said we're not going to expand america's credit card until we get serious about curbing spending. he said, no, mr. president, i will not raise the limit on america's credit card unless you agree to dollar-for-dollar reductions on the spending side of the ledger so that we're not just making the problem worse, we're creating a pathway to solve the problem altogether. i admire the speaker for that. and the speaker and the president agreed on this proposal. it was called the budget control act of 2011, and what it did was to create a -- a committee here on capitol hill, fi
. no date has been set for his discharge. >>> president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff to try to win concessions on raising the nation's borrowing limit. nbc's danielle lee is live on capitol hill this afternoon where a perfect storm over spending and borrowing and taxes is shaping up here at the end of the year. danielle? >> reporter: pat, that's a good way to describe it. both sides are digging in their heels, and with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff, or to raise the debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion, now there's new concern about what could happen to our credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strateg
of the four fire stations periods >> there is 26 days until the fiscal cliff. the expiration of the bush tax cuts for all americans, and automatic government spending cuts that will kick in and republicans and the white house seem to have found some common ground. both sides are green that tax revenue and reductions in entitlement spending are key elements of the deal. republicans may be softening on raising taxes for wealthier americans and the white house may be on accepting a greater spending cut for medicare. >> we will be right back as kron 4 news continues. (car horn) paying with your smartphone instead of cash... (phone rings) that's a step forward. with chase quickpay, you can send money directly to anyone's checking account. i guess he's a kicker... again, again! oh, no you don't! take a step forward and chase what matters. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported case in 12 years. aids i
-- the president may secretly want the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. earlier today our hannity cameras caught up with a senator from wisconsin on capitol hill. >> it's increasingly clear to me that the president is very willing to go over the cliff. i think he ought to be spending more time listening and less time lecturing. the president seems to be just fixated on increasing tax rates even though they may hurt the economy and i'm concerned if we go over the cliff, that what we're going to see is unemployment back above 9% and we'll see, you know, a country where we're in a second recession. >> all right. the senator is absolutely right. what we heard from president in recent days amounts to nothing more than con descending lectures. in fact, he sounds like the same hyperpartisan canada that we saw on the campaign trail, you know, the one that worked tire leslie to demonize success. the president appears to have a out right unhealthy fixation on increasing taxes regardless of the consequence and bring on the fiscal cliff. he says who cares if we spiral into another recession. if unemp
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